Sunday, December 3, 2017

Archbishop of Salzburg: "The Priesthood Should Remain Linked to Celibacy"

Salzburg's Archbishop Lackner comments on kath.net after discussing statements in the "local papers"

Salzburg (kath.net) The Archdiocese of Salzburg has discussions about the statements of Archbishop Franz Lackner according to statements in the "local papers". They quote the archbishop as follows: "If Jesus came into the world today, I would say to him, "Take the women to the priesthood." But there is also an injustice on the other side: celibacy. So a priest must live without woman." kath.net asked Archbishop Lackner what these statements meant.

Lackner explains to kath.net: "As part of a conversation on the sidelines of the presentation of the 'Reputation Study', I was once again addressed about the question of women's ordination and I made those statements in order to emphasize the basic Catholic theological conception as I said in this interview, that the Church is an organic whole, like a tree that has been growing for a long time, and that the tree can not be changed in its basic structure, the main roots, the trunk, and the main branches This is also the case in theology: there is a basic structure, such as the sacraments and the dogmas of the church, which is not - and certainly not arbitrarily - changeable." 

The Salzburg Archbishop then recalls that in the context of the priesthood, the Church looks back on Jesus Christ and a "long time of growth" under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.  Lackner then goes on to explain: "The sacramental priesthood is part of the Catholic identity." In ecclesiastical doctrine one knows the wise distinction of the potentia Dei absoluta and the potentia Dei ordinata, that is, the absolute salvific will of God and the actual salvific will of God. God does not exclude a priori that God originally chose another way of healing, and in this context, I have made a conditional statement, "If Jesus came into the world today, I would say to him, 'Take the women to the priesthood.'" In the sense of an absolute salvific will of God, this statement is not heretical, it is highly speculative and I admit that it is striking, but in this connection one thing is always clear: God can do it, we can not, but our task is in the sense of the potentia Dei ordinata to listen to how God spoke and how to speak through the history of salvation - which I firmly believe is spiritually guided - understood and also established as the teaching of the Church." 

The topic of celibacy is also very important to the Salzburg Archbishop: "I understand that a world based on equality (every distinction is a discrimination) makes it hard to understand why women can not reach the priesthood. I want to seize on this understanding, that's why I mean, but not just because the priesthood should be linked to celibacy, the priesthood must be "deficient" as it were "to compensate." The priest has to be lacking because of his path of sanctification. I have repeatedly defended the priesthood, as the Catholic Church has determined, both out of personal conviction and fidelity to the teachings of the Church, but I also seek to argue in a differentiated way in today's world." 

Photo: (c) Archdiocese of Salzburg


Trans: Tancred vekron99@hotmail.com
AMDG

16 comments:

JBQ said...

You have to read "the handwriting on the wall". Francis is a Marxist. He believes in evolution. This is the final stage of the Church as seen in the writings of Teilhard de Chardin. Malachi Martin, still another Jesuit, wrote the blueprint in his book, "The Jesuits". He read the Third Secret in the original Portuguese so he had an unusual perspective.----The priesthood of Melchezedek is outdated. The priesthood of the laity is the "final solution". Church and State will be linked. There is no morality. Sin is based on the influence of the environment.--With this scenario, there was no need for a Redeemer. Francis has already been quoted by Eugenio Salfari as telling him that he "no longer believed in sin because of the vast mercy of God". This was in November of 2015 just before the onslaught on Paris. Radical Islam is viewed as being caused by economic disparity primarily because of the capitalism of the United States. Trump is evil while Barry was a saint.---Homosexuality is acceptable as an alternative lifestyle. We are moving toward gay marriage as told to Timothy Cardinal Dolan by Francis during the controversy with gays marching in the St. Patrick's Day Parade. Now, the 2018 grand marshal is a divorced woman who left her Irish husband (Brennan) and three children and took up residence with the president of Lehman Brothers in 1984 (Gluckman). There should be no need to relate the ethnicity of this individual nor the lust for power and prestige as now envisioned by progressive women in the Catholic Church.

Carl J said...

You're not only a liar, you are also a raging lunatic peddling this load of confected BS.
Get help.

JBQ said...

@Carl J: "The truth, you can't handle the truth". (Jack Nicholson in "A Few Good Men")

Tancred said...

I've noticed Gaybrielle never has any arguments.

N.D. said...

https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/its-a-hustle-loretta-on-a-life-dedicated-to-philanthropy-35934996.html

N.D. said...

https://www.nycstpatricksparade.org/2017/09/01/new-york-city-saint-patricks-day-parade-names-loretta-glucksman-grand-marshal-2018-parade/
Every Catholic recognizes that Saint Patrick did not deny The Sanctity of the marital act.

JBQ said...

From the quoted article: "I don't pray, I don't go to church and I don't do any of those rituals that were once such a core part of my life," says the Catholic -born former daily communicant. "A woman of deep faith, she broke ranks with the Catholic Church in the 1960s after a priest warned her she would go straight to hell if she took anything (i.e. contraceptives) to impede God's will." "Brennan-Gluckman, who son Christopher is gay and married with a son, said the Marriage Equality Referendum was her proudest moment for Ireland".

Clyde said...

When anyone offers a coherent and persuasive argument you display your inability to engage and respond intelligently by deleting it (them). You prefer the unctuous twaddle of bed wetters like JBQ. It's so much easier isn't it?
Grow up.

susan said...

clyde/carl j/gaybriel/freakshow....talk about a bedwetter..."waaahhh...Tancred deletes me, cuz I'm such a bedwetting moron....waaaahhhhhhhh."

Shyad-up you pusillanimous warthog and get. a. life.

yeeeeeee hawwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

susan said...

...and oh yeah....REALLY fine analysis JBQ.

Clyde said...

It's worse than I thought. Get help with literacy and the neurotic behaviors. The bats' bile treatment can wait for the time being.

Tancred said...

You never offer a reasonable argument.

Anonymous said...

The Man is the Head of the Woman - Sacred Scripture.

Anonymous said...

The Church does not have the authority to ordain women. You are obviously not Catholic if you don't know this.

JBQ said...

Wake up. Wake up. The issue is moot. The modern Church is phasing out the priesthood. This is no longer the religious model of the Order of Melchizedek. This is the model of Teihard de Chardin. ----The people are the Church. They make the rules. We have a pontiff who is phasing out the papacy.---Be not naive to what is transpiring. This is exactly like the churches that I saw in Romania. The divine presence was removed and they became stables and evolved into museums.---The holy place found in the sanctuary of a church has been removed. The crosses are coming down as seen in my archdiocese. Churches are obsolete and evolving into nothing more than meeting halls which is exactly what a mosque entails and which I have visited.---Wake up. Wake up. we are moving toward a one world religion which is a merger of Church and state.---Look at the videos of Fulton J. Sheen. They are eye opening and lay the basis for the truth. Any priests who resist are either moved or persecuted. Advanced techniques of behavior modification are being used in order to ensure the establishment of the new world order. Sin is not a primary concern and our pontiff has been quoted by Eugenio Scalfari as stating that "he no longer believes in sin".

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